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So, okay. This kid's already been scammed by Tate Publishing into paying 4K to publish his first novel. He's a very nice kid, has a lot of friends and incredibly supportive family, soooo as far as I can tell no one's ever bothered to tell him that the book kind of sucks (read: it makes Eragon and Twilight look like absolute masterpieces).

Kid has posted a thread on a board we're both part of, asking for advice on a new series. I and several other people give him exactly what he asks for, he dismisses a lot of it, one of the posters (not me, surprisingly) tells him he's being a douche, he ignores that too, responds only to my post, and says he would rather "reply to me on AIM."

Which, y'know, whatever. I want to help this kid, and I don't want him giving Tate any more money; I want him to get good enough that he could be published (gasp) WITHOUT paying money for it.

That's my goal, here.

But I've sent this kid three different messages now, over the course of...two weeks? Three? Something like that. Have sent him a few messages on AIM as well, and had a few BRIEF conversations that never touched on writing.

I'm starting to feel like a jilted girlfriend here. Do I post a follow up in the thread, calling him out on this bullcrap (because he HAS been online, frequently, and has posted in several other places)? Do I say screw this and just start sporking his writing in the hopes that he gets angry enough to work on it?

(No, ignoring the kid is not an option, because I am Emotionally Invested in this by now and also he knows most of my online friends. Also I hate Tate Publishing and any writer I can save from their clutches is more than worth the effort, IMO.)

Thoughts?

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Date: 2010-01-17 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakuracorr.livejournal.com
That's a tough one, esp. as ignoring him seems like the best option. I don't know, have you tried really really calling him out on this over AIM? Or I'd call him out on the boards. I don't trust the results of sporking, esp. given his seeming maturity level.

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Date: 2010-01-17 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vareth-is.livejournal.com
Well, he sort of did this to me the last time we started discussing critique; what eventually got him to respond was, I was whining at someone else on the board re: him via chat, and THAT person went and poked at him.

Which is why I'm thinking calling him out might work. He seems fine with being a jerk to me, but he doesn't want other people knowing he's doing it.

Rar. Thank you for the advice. :)

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Date: 2010-01-17 05:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com
Which is why I'm thinking calling him out might work. He seems fine with being a jerk to me, but he doesn't want other people knowing he's doing it.

Definitely go for it. Ignoring seems like the best option, and sporking seems unnecessarily cruel to me; this option is like a nice middle point.

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Date: 2010-01-17 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
I like your strategy to work with what he's got and help him become a legit author rather than just write him off like others are doing, but obviously he has to be willing to listen first. My gut feeling is that he'll learn soon enough that he needs some improvement and will come back having had his humble pie and be more willing to listen and improve. Yes, he's published, and while he's possibly young enough and too new to the publishing world to realize that self-publishing is not the same as *being published* in the writing world, something might enlighten him to that at some point-- and surely he'll be aware of whether his published book is selling or not. (I'm guessing more the not?).

Maybe just humor him for the time being, give what little advice his ego will allow him to swallow at the moment, and while he's working on this series (thank goodness it's a series, eh?) maybe try to encourage him to get the book legitimately published. If he sees that as a worthy goal, maybe he'll be more open to the critique that will get them there.

Though there is a just he could just be helplessly delusional, unfortunately. And then . . . Well, you just can't get too attached /-:

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