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Thing One: So, I'm watching Advent Children Complete in Japanese for the first time, and I realize the word that Sephiroth uses for Cloud, that they always translate as "puppet", is ningyō. Typically you would translate that as "doll," and I can see why they didn't, because that's...even for Sephiroth that's a little too gay.

But my GOD, ningyō? Way, way creepier than "puppet" conveys. Way more appropriate. Yet another example of how translations just can't do the original justice. Look at the kanji, man. Even the karakuri ningyō, which we would more readily translate as "puppet," has a lot of cultural weight and implication that the English just can't get at.

And this, [livejournal.com profile] canofstag, is why I like watching things in the Japanese, even though I know you have an enormous mancrush on Steve Burton.

Thing Two: I READ THE HUNGER GAMES AND ALL OF YOU GUYS NEED TO READ IT TOO. AM BUYING SEQUELS ATM. [livejournal.com profile] electrumqueen, YOU + ME = NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS, YESTERDAY.

Katniss &hearts &hearts &hearts

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Date: 2010-02-01 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electrumqueen.livejournal.com
*FISTPUMP*

FUCK YEAH, LET'S GO. AWESOME BOOK? OR AWESOME BOOK.

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Date: 2010-02-01 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electrumqueen.livejournal.com
(alsoooooo: psst.)

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Date: 2010-02-01 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com
...OH MY GOD that really does put a different spin on things. 'Puppet' is a pretty damn good Woolseyism, all things considered, but 'human shape' - gaaaaaghgahjagdsf

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Date: 2010-02-02 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vareth-is.livejournal.com
I KNOW, RIGHT.

...I had a big rambly paragraph here that basically boils down to: their relationship can be summed up by that single word.

Also I know you don't care for AC overmuch, but the scene where Kadaj refers to himself as a puppet reinforces that; he's not just saying he's something that is toyed with or controlled, but something that's only imitating humanity. So it's, like, it's more than Sephiroth just calling Cloud his plaything (although the word also has a more "playful" connotation than "puppet" does in English, so more creepy points); he's taunting the fact that Cloud isn't "real."

Which, yeah, is clear when he says "nothing but a puppet" but idk, the dialogue at Aeris' death is a lot more ominous now. Sephiroth's rambling is pretty blatant foreshadowing.

...And now I want to play the game in Japanese. This is not healthy.

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Date: 2010-02-02 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverfyre.livejournal.com
JESSY! JESSY I AM IN CHICAGO. LIKE, RIGHT NOWWWWW...!

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Date: 2010-02-02 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vareth-is.livejournal.com
where are you!!

and TELL ME THESE THINGS BEFORE YOU ARRIVE, WOMAN :( i'm super-busy during the week, i dunno if i'll be able to see you :(((

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Date: 2010-02-02 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverfyre.livejournal.com
Currently downtown, at Northwestern's Law campus. I have an interview at 1, but other than that I'm mostly chilling down here and checking out the campus. And possibly I'll get to see Loyola-Chicago too. I'm staying with my cousin in Evanston, that's where I'll be tonight.

Sorry for the (lack of any) notice, this whole thing was kindof unplanned, it essentially boiled down to, Northwestern requires an interview, I just realized it was too late for an off-campus one, so my mom was anxious and insisted I catch the next on-campus interview available, so here I am in Chicago with very little notice even to me. :P

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Date: 2010-02-02 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gold-bluepoint.livejournal.com
FFFFFFFFF CREEPY. D:

Innnteresting. Reading the article - it seems like a lot of the, hmm, implications/connotations that "puppet" takes on in the game - that Cloud is an empty thing, human-shaped but not actually human, etc - are still true, just, actually implied by the word used itself. FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS. XD

The sacrificial and scapegoat elements are interesting as well.

HOW ARE THE HUNGER GAMES I HAVE HEARD THEM RECOMMENDED BEFORE BUT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM.

Also I HAVE NO FFVII ICONS, WHAT IS THIS
Edited Date: 2010-02-02 11:12 pm (UTC)

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